Veterans tell their war stories for national project
By Janene Scully/Associate Editor janscully@santamariatimes.com | Posted: Sunday, May 30, 2010 1:30 am

Roy Noel of Santa Maria, a veteran of the Marine Corps and World War II, talks about his service as part of the Veterans History Project.
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For more than 90 minutes on a recent morning, World War II
veteran Roy Noel recounted his harrowing role as “an island hopper”
while serving with the Marines Corps in the Pacific.
Matter of factly, the Santa Maria man recalled looking for a buddy
amid a pile of casualties, only to find a supposedly dead man with
a pulse and getting him medical help. Or having his ambulance sink
to the ocean floor while troops were trying to land on a Pacific
island.
All this amid the chaos of war.
“You’re scared for yourself,” Noel said. “You’re scared for
everybody around you. All you hear is the zing zing, you know, the
bullets. You don’t know if they’re that close to you or
what.”
While Noel talked, a video camera captured the 86-year-old man’s
reflections of serving with the 1st Marine Division more than six
decades ago, including his role in the bloody Battle of Peleliu (a
small island now known as Palau).
Noel is among 110 people who have told their tales to Joanne
Cargill, an Orcutt woman who has captured similar stories through
the national Veterans History Project.
“This is your personal story,” Cargill told Noel, who was decked
out in a Marine Corps League jacket and cap. “It’s not the 1st
Marine Division story — that’s been written about with all kinds of
books. It’s your personal experiences while you were in the
service. That’s what we want.”
With just a camera and her belief that every veteran has a story to
tell, she began her involvement in 2003.
With World War II veterans dying at a high rate, Congress enacted
the Veterans History Project in 2000, seeking to capture their
personal experiences.
So far the project has collected 68,000 interviews across the
nation. What started as a World War II focus now includes all
veterans and anyone who has a job supporting the war.
Cargill notes there’s nothing magical about her mission. It’s
something anyone — family member or a student — could do with audio
or video recording no longer than 90 minutes.
Her small project expanded, linking up with the Central Coast
Veterans Memorial Museum in San Luis Obispo. She has trained others
to interview, and they now have a permanent room for interviews at
the museum on Grand Avenue in San Luis Obispo.
If the interview is in Santa Maria, Cargill sets up shop in the
Santa Maria Radisson Hotel — a wall in an empty bar provided the
backdrop for Noel’s recording.
“I didn’t know this was out there,” said Ardis Noel, Roy’s wife of
40 years.
There’s no cost to the veteran to participate.
“It’s a beautiful program. We get history down before folks pass
on,” said Harry Hoover, president of the Central Coast Veterans
Memorial Museum.
Veterans also receive one copy of the video interview and can
purchase additional copies.
“It’s a really nice keepsake for the family,” Hoover added.
The completed recordings are submitted to the Library of Congress,
where some are made available on the Web.
“I think it’s so important to get these kinds of stories, firsthand
stories, that just give a more human aspect to war, what that one
person went through,” Cargill said. “I think it will be interesting
for generations to come.”
She drew on her own experience — her husband Dewayne returned from
the Vietnam War noticeably different.
“I could see once he told his story, he felt better, ” she
said.
If he felt better, she figured after learning of the oral history
project, other veterans might too.
“I think it’s rather cathartic for them,” Cargill said.
Sometimes she has to talk them into opening up about what veterans
believe is a routine tale but she knows is a precious piece of
history seen through the eyes of one man or woman
“They downplay their involvement,” she said. “The whole thing is
getting the veterans to talk.”
She hopes to find a permanent place to do the interviews in Santa
Maria so she can do more.
Now more comfortable about the process, she has refined her
questions since the early interviews. She also has increased
knowledge, no longer needing to look up details of World War II
battles.
Although Cargill enters interviews with lists of questions, she’s
ready to veer if the stories take a different course or gently prod
to get personal tales.
“It’s only to keep the conversation going,” she said. “Sometimes,
the veteran pretty much has it in his head what he wants to
say.”
Along with historical details, she seeks personal feelings and
reflections.
“The more important thing is what were you thinking when that
happened? What where you feeling when that happened?”
Among the dozens of hours she has recorded, many stories remain
memorable for Cargill. One helicopter pilot recounted rescuing
groups of Marines under fire.
“It almost brings me to tears because that was such an emotional
story,” she said.
During his interview, Roy Noel revealed he was in college when he
enlisted in the military in 1942 with three buddies, and there was
no doubt what branch he would pick.
“The Marines were the best,” Noel said. “At least I consider that
correct. They were the one of the best services there were. And the
toughest.”
After being sent to Australia and then two other islands, Noel
landed in Peleliu, where Marines battled for months to capture the
island from the Japanese.
It was there he recalled looking for a missing friend, and spotting
someone considered a casualty actually had a weak pulse. He
summoned help and man was evacuated the next morning.
“I don’t know who it was, his name or anything,” Noel said.
He recalled the extremely memorable mud on the first two islands he
and his fellow Marines landed on in the Pacific.
Following Peleliu, they went to their fourth island, Okinawa — “a
more scary place,” he recalled. The Americans struggled to tell the
difference between the enemy and native residents.
“You were scared. You were scared most of the time so you just kept
going. It didn’t matter what happened.”
He recalled developing film in his tent from the clandestine camera
he used to capture images of his experience, and getting developing
fluid from the medical staff.
“I took pictures of anything I could,” Noel said.
“That’s wonderful you could carry a camera,” Cargill told
him.
“I wasn’t suppose to,” he said, adding he learned to stash his film
in a vest he always wore.
His pictures are now in an album with a metal cover made from a
downed Japanese aircraft.
Noel never doubted he would return from war, although he had
buddies who believed their fates wouldn’t be as certain.
“That never even passed my mind. I knew I was going to come back,”
Noel said. “The ones that said they weren’t coming back didn’t. I
don’t know if they took one chance to many or what, but they didn’t
come back. I really felt sorry for them.” Posted in Military on Sunday, May 30, 2010 1:30 am | |